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VAT

Posted by Pete Davis

Today, the National Retail Federation released a study by Ernst & Young and Tax Policy Advisers that analyzes a 10.3% narrowly based "add-on" value added tax to reduce the deficit by 2% of GDP. It estimated a $2.5 trillion reduction in retail spending over the next decade and an initial loss of 850,000 of which 700,000 would be lost permanently. That's the kind of scary analysis you want if you want to kill a proposal. I would note that any federal tax increase of 2% of GDP would have similar results, although with less impact on the retail sector.

Obama On The VAT

22 Apr 2010
Posted by Pete Davis

Here's what President Obama said on CNBC yesterday in an interview with John Harwood:

HARWOOD: If reducing consumption is a good idea, could you see the potential for a value-added tax in this country?
 
OBAMA: You know, I know that there has been a lot of talk around town lately about the value-added tax. That is something that has worked for some countries. It's something that would be novel for the United States. And before I start saying that this makes sense or that makes sense, I want a better picture of what our options are. And my first priority is to figure out how can we reduce wasteful spending so that, you know, we have a baseline of the core services that we need and the government should provide, and then we decide how do we pay for that. As opposed to figuring out how much money can we raise and then not have to make some tough choices on the spending side.

 

 

Posted by Pete Davis

 "As the night follows the day, VAT follows health care reform." That's how Charles Krauthammer started his Washington Post op-ed yesterday. He blissfully implies Uncle Sam can flip a switch and collect a trillion dollars over 10 years for every percentage point of VAT, "the ultimate cash cow." I beg to differ.

Posted by Stan Collender

And he says in National Journal that a value-added tax is on the horizon.

There's nothing really new in Clive's column.  Bruce has been saying that a VAT is logical for a long time.  And among many others, I've been saying that the deficit isn't just a spending problem.

But the fact that Clive is now willing to go where others have boldly gone before is an important indication that the public debate is now changing and that a tax increase is becoming a topic for polite conversation.  It might not yet inevitable but it's definitely becoming more acceptable.

 

Posted by Edmund L. Andrews

It's always odd to get into a simultaneous fight with someone on the left and someone apparently on the right, but I have to respond to two commenters to my post on Greg Mankiw's proposal for what Republicans could bargain for if they actually wanted to engage on the issue of deficit reduction.

   JakeCollins  thinks it's appalling that I would support a value-added tax or VAT, one of Mankiw's proposed trades,  because it "cuts taxes on the rich and raises them on the middle-class and the poor."    Why, he asks, would liberals favor that?

      I'm not saying liberals necessarily do favor a VAT.  I just said I am a comparatively liberal person, and I think it's a good idea.   Note, by the way, that the most rabid opponent of a VAT is the Wall Street Journal editorial page, which is righteously right-wing.

    But the real point is this: don't be dogmatic.




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