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Price to What?

08 May 2008
Posted by Andrew Samwick

Richard Parsons, chairman and former CEO of Time Warner, visited the Rockefeller Center at Dartmouth yesterday to meet with students and give a public lecture on "Entrepreneurship in the Digital Age."  There is no one who has been closer to the interface between the old and new economies over the last decade, and his remarks did not disappoint.  The theme of the talk is well summarized by this passage from the story in this morning's issue of The Dartmouth:

Parsons also spoke on how the Internet has lowered the entry barrier for new ideas, leaving the marketplace “wide open for entrepreneurs.” While investment capital for new ideas has spread since the 1990s, he said, technology has simultaneously made that capital less necessary.

“The way AOL got started was, they rolled over the existing telephone lines,” Parsons said. “Nowadays, you don’t have to even have servers and routers and other forms of infrastructure. If you have software development skills, you can essentially use someone else’s infrastructure to create the business.”

Many of the most inventive entrepreneurs are more interested in creating an attractive and revolutionary product than creating a useful business model, Parsons said. The difficulty, he added, is attracting young people to companies and employing their idealism for a practical purpose.

“Who among the young nowadays doesn’t fundamentally want to work for themselves? They don’t want to be shackled by some chucklehead like me,” he said. “They want to go into a place of employment where they can be free … and get rewarded for it.”

During his talk, I found myself thinking of the way I explain the Internet bubble in the stock market to my students.  In a nutshell, when there is an innovation in an industry, the benefits can accrue to three main groups: current firms in the industry, firms that will enter the industry, and consumers of the products that utilize the innovation.  I think we get bubbles when too much of those benefits are attached to the value of the current firms in the industry.

That misvaluation requires some willfulness on the part of investors.  The classic valuation method suggests that the key ratio should be (stock) price to dividends.  But lots of firms don't pay dividends.  Enter price-to-earnings.  But some firms, including many of the new ones with interesting innovations, don't have positive earnings.  Enter price-to-sales.  And guess what?  With some of the examples Parsons cited, even sales are too close to zero to give a sensible multiple.

It seems strange but true that seven years after the bursting of the Internet bubble, we still don't have a valuation method for technology companies that could be used prospectively with any reliability.

Valuing high growth, hi tech companies

There's a method for valuing technology companies but bean counters will never understand it . . . they are focused completely on the numbers, and as you mention, those are not a predictive of future success of a new high tech product or service.

The answer is in analyzing the innovation itself. I've been extremely successful at selecting winning companies (and profiting from investing in their stocks) because I look at factors that feed forward innovation and continued success: Scalability, vertical integration, convergence potential, engineering and business model obstacles to future product enhancements, creative marketing, etc. That is, I look at the future of the product and management using engineering and the product road map criteria. Lots of the internet bubble companies were "one trick" ponies, unable to diversify, scale, or map to a broad audience, or based on technologies which were easily mimicked (no barrier to entry) by the competition.

It's true that anyone can be an entrepreneur in the digital world; but when everyone can do it then yes, everyone DOES do it (blogging, for example), and the value added is diminished. The long tail means that many will make incrementally less and less. Many digital entrepreneurs struggle to monetize (Facebook is the prime example) in their niche.

Parsons obviously understands how badly things can go wrong in valuing companies -- he was a big supporter and helped negotiate the AOL-Time Warner merger, one of the greatest business fiascos in history. If Mr. Parsons had peeled back the layers on the AOL technology he would never have been so enthusiastic about choking down that company, in my opinion. I never owned stock in either company (both failed using my model).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,51388,00.html


Timely topic

I hope the Dartmouth students challenged Parsons on the value of the recent AOL Time Warner Bebo acquisition.

http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9893205-60.html


What Was There to Challenge?

It was an interesting feature of the lecture that he seemed to acknowledge that the valuation is not consistent with traditional notions. As I noted in the post, this is what struck me about the lecture--it's still happening. But at the very least, it is happening on options for the "next big thing" in the hundreds of millions, not $100+ billion.

Challenge was the wrong word

Ask is probably a better term, and you answered my question in your response. Hundreds of millions is still real money (850 million was the price paid for Bebo), and perhaps the more important take away from this is that it indicates the desperation of AOL Time Warner. Microsoft (a company that also missed on the internet revolution), also desperate, recently backed off on the Yahoo deal (in the 30 billion range), so it would appear that a valuation reality check can sometimes happen.





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