Pensions or 401(k)s
I made a brief radio appearance on Marketplace Money yesterday, in a story with the same title as the post, asking which type of retirement plan is better. The segment was motivated, I think, by this article last month in The Wall Street Journal decrying the inadequacy of 401(k) plan balances for near-retirees.The answer is that there need not be any important difference. If I were tasked by a plan sponsor to provide an adequate retirement income for plan participants and to keep the plan properly funded, I could do just fine under either a defined benefit plan or a defined contribution or 401(k) plan. It just requires a projection of the retirement income that is needed and a funding strategy of contributions and investment returns to get there. What differs across the two plans is the exposure to risk and the responsibility for making choices.
Under the DB plan, the plan sponsor makes all the choices, subject to federal guidelines about funding requirements. Almost all of the problems that exist in DB plans come from the simple fact that some DB plan sponsors invest the pension fund in equity, use an equity-like rate of return to discount future liabilities, and avoid making any contributions beyond the required minimum. When we get any of the last three recessions -- an asset market deflation followed by sharp reductions in interest rates -- they get a double whammy. The fall in the stock market dramatically reduces the value of the pension fund's assets, and the reduction in interest rates dramatically increases the value of the plan's liabilities. Voila, major underfunding. The next steps are cram down for the plan participants and intense(ly successful) lobbying by plan sponsors to amortize the funding gap over several decades. Or the PBGC has to pick up much of the tab -- more transfers from the prudent to the profligate.
Under the 401(k) plan, the question is one of adequacy rather than underfunding. People could choose not to contribute. (This is less common than is generally believed when the 401(k) is the only employer-sponsored pension plan.) They could also choose to put their contributions in company stock (or the company's contributions could be required to be there, as in the Enron case), which is excessively risky. Or they could invest too conservatively, not taking on enough risk to earn reasonable returns over their working lives. There are other differences, like whether the benefits are paid out as an annuity or not, that could also be noted.
The other guests on the Marketplace segment, and the WSJ article, may in fact be correct that current near-retirees do not have enough accumulated to hit the standard of post-retirement income equal to 85% of pre-retirement income. I think that's a ridiculously high target. (The best research I have seen on this puts the amount of so-called undersaving at a much lower figure -- with perhaps 20% of people approaching retirement with inadequate resources.) And when evaluating the title question for the post, it is the wrong standard. The right comparison is to what people would have if they remained under a traditional pension plan, which itself may have been inadequate (even in the absence of cram down or reductions when the PBGC takes over).
My colleague Jon Skinner and I made that comparison in an article in the American Economic Review. The result was that the projected distributions of retirement income were surprisingly similar under the old-style DB plans that were dominant in the 1980s and the 401(k) plans that supplanted them in the 1990s, assuming workers were covered by the same plan over a long career. (The comparison was better for 401(k) plans when workers switched jobs -- vested deferred benefits under DB plans are often quite low.)
In truth, this should not really come as a surprise. The amount of retirement income that will come from pensions is determined by workers' willingness to give up current earnings for current pension contributions, regardless of whether they are making the contributions directly or the employer is (allegedly) contributing for them. If 401(k) plans are proving to be inadequate, it is because we are a nation of inadequate savers, not because we had a great system of DB pensions that we no longer have.


In toto, I disagree - serious employment market issues
Andrew -
You're not the Average American by an extremely long shot - you're smart, highly educated, probably make excellent choices related to saving vs. spending, at least fairly well paid, and can analytically decide between investment classes and categories, and when to buy [low], sell [high]. Despite high education, I am terrible at the latter two although good at the rest... so I really don't think putting the financial risk and decision-making on average Americans is so great, and we should be upfront about our country taxing income, and other than relatively minor state sales taxes, not really discouraging consumption, rewarding savings the way a solid VAT does. And what are we buying - too often goods from China et al. Part of the reason why there is such a brouhaha (however you spell that word) right now about government employees' pensions and health care benefits is that they are so much better and costlier than those of most privately employed American citizens, who have been and will probably be even more so, hung out to dry. For example, large companies are moving away from funding for age 65+ retirees as much and as fast as they can (particularly medical). THe same thing is now happening with those who are retired after decades of service - medical benefits are eroding.. And at least for older government workers, their benfits are frequently defined benefits [kind of like the concept of "entitlement"] and most of the risk is on the government authorities they work for.
give us more mythology !
"If 401(k) plans are proving to be inadequate, it is because we are a nation of inadequate savers, not because we had a great system of DB pensions that we no longer have."
yeah, right, keep repeating the myth and for sure there will come a time when
enough of us gullible citizens will believe it. After all we've proved how gullible
we can back in '02/'03 when we ate all the Bush and Co. lies about WMDs, smoking
guns, etc. It's now the time to take us to the cleaners.
It is no accident that the stock market took off towards the stratosphere and
commenced going through a series of bubbles after the 401k was invented and
instituted during Reagan's terms.
It is also no accident that the corporatists are itching to get Social Security
"invested" in the stock market. We won't be allowed to keep our money, we have
to give our Social Security too to Wall Street so the "Masters of the Universe,"
who are the real government in this sham of a country, can continue extracting
their economic rents and their drinking from the bubbles they create AT OUR
EXPENSE (never their expense!).
The 85% should be modified a bit
To start with if you are contributing to a 401k then you don't need to replace 85% of that income. Likewise with FICA contributions. In addition there is any other saving that may be going on. So it really should be 85% of income less FICA and 401ks and other savings. Then in general the 85% may or may not work, depending on what one wants to do when retired. The industry here is following the meme of our society everything is a crisis, the sky is falling. Only if you scare people can you get their attention. Fear is the best motivator be fearful very fearful because then we have a way to fix it, just pay us a slight fee.
the average person cannot
the average person cannot keep up with the market and will not be able to save in a 401k type program. and yes it was with design that only wall street makes money with 401k programs, so how does the average person retire? only by government funded welfare. this is not good.
what they don't want us to know...
...will hurt them if we knew it.
Just look at this link:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1227/p01s03-cogn.html
"Just ask Stanley Logue of San Diego.
For 45 years, the defense-industry analyst paid into the system until his
retirement in 1994. But with all the recent hoopla over reform, Mr. Logue, a
Massachusetts Institute of Technology graduate, decided to go back and check his
own records. Would he have done better investing his money than the bureaucrats
at the Social Security Administration? ..."
I've been contributing to a 403B since 1994 (to the maximum possible, including
all the SRAs I can legally put away). The total value of my "portofolio" is
less than my (thus far) lifetime contributions. So given I'm about 20 years from
retirement isn't it understandable that I get incensed whenever I see the grubby
hands of the corporatists reaching for my Social Security ?